Picked these up thru various trades. Have had one for about 3 months and the other for a month. Used both for 4 nights. Both in excellent condition....no rips, tears, or stains that I can see. The dates on the tags....Sept 2009 and Nov 2011. They both actually look and loft up the same though. Both have stuff sacks. Both have been stored uncompressed as long as Ive had them and was told by previous owners the same. 200 for 2009 215 for 2011 Prices are shipped to lower 48.