WTB: Heavier Down Pants

Anybody have a used pair of Montbell Ventisca Down Pants? Im looking to upgrade from my current Montbell Tec Down Pants. Probably would want mens XL (since its japanese sizing), maybe a large depending on the measurements. If it comes in multiple inseams, shorter is prefferred. Im not looking to spend $200 on used western mountaineering when the ventiscas are about that new....


edit: Im still looking for ultralight materials, not some oldschool crazy thick nylon down insanity. Im not looking for expedition everest pants here.


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