Bought a pair of black beta shell gloves and a pair of supplemental atom liners last year and barely used them. The gloves may have 2 days on them, and the atom liners are unused - unfortunately the whole setup is a bit small for my hands. These are super versatile as the liners are removable and the waterproof glove shell can be used by itself on warmer days. Using the atom liners instead of the included pile fleece should keep your fingers toasty into the single digits.

Retail was $290 for gloves + liners, how about $115 shipped CONUS F&F + 3% otherwise?