Selling duplicates/no longer used backpacks to finance my 2014 AT Thru attempt. These are AARN Packs, I have way too many. These are great packs, well made, and perfect to keep the weight off your shoulders and neck, They can be used with the balance packs or without, They come with a waterproof liner that works! AARN EFFORTLESS RHYTHM 65L W/EXPEDITION BALANCE PACKS $190 Packs come with removable pack liners. Balance Packs can be removed and the pack looks and functions like a regular pack. SIZE: Short Torso/Torso length is the distance from the top part of your hip bone (iliac crest) to the top of your shoulder = 15"or less Small Hipbelt/Measure around your back from the front part of your left hip-bone to the front part of your right hip-bone, this is not your waist size! = 22" http://www.aarnusa.com/pack_effortlessrhythm.htm AARN FEATHERLITE FREEDOM 50-67L W/12L SPORTS BALANCE PACKS $195SOLD Packs come with removable pack liners. Balance Packs can be removed and the pack looks and functions like a regular pack. SIZE: Short Torso/Torso length is the distance from the top part of your hip bone (iliac crest) to the top of your shoulder = 15"or less Medium Hipbelt/Measure around your back from the front part of your left hip-bone to the front part of your right hip-bone, this is not your waist size! = 22" to 25.5" http://http://www.aarnusa.com/pack_f...freedom_12.htm AARN MOUNTAIN MAGIC 38L W/12L BALANCE PACKS $195 Packs come with removable pack liners. Balance Packs can be removed and pack looks and functions like a regular pack. SIZE: Medium/Torso length is the distance from the top part of your hip bone (iliac crest) to the top of your shoulder = 15" or more HIPBELT: Standard/Waist size measures 28" to 40" http://www.aarnusa.com/pack_mountainmagic.htm All packs are in great condition from a smoke free home. No rips, tears or abrasions. I accept Paypal and I will pay for shipping CONUS. Thanks for looking.